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Post by StarlightDragons on Nov 9, 2014 20:19:52 GMT
Ah, I almost forgot! Okay, I'm now rather iffy on James Black being Anokata because he knew that Akai was still alive. He always knew. Ever since the beginning. We know that the boss is really freaking cautious and, like Vermouth, believes that a single Silver Bullet could possibly take down the organization in one fell swoop.
So why didn't he say anything to the other crows? Why is he okay with Akai being alive - and keeping it hidden?
Unless he doesn't want to be the boss and secretly wants the crows to fall. Like he's just keeping all the evil in one place, so Akai or whatever Silver Bullet can pierce it and destroy all the evil stuff in one blow. But that's another conspiracy sort of theory; that the boss really isn't evil, but trying to do good in a super roundabout way. Which also makes no sense because he can't possibly condone all the killing that goes on and he was the one who ordered the whole APTX / project thing, right?
So, I'm doubting James Black as Anokata, but who knows?
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Post by neonquincy1217 on Nov 10, 2014 10:10:23 GMT
Hm, if Yoko's not Anokata (I'm seriously thinking over scratching her off my list of possible Anokata's) maybe she's also a part of the Organization???
I mean, back when Mizunashi Rena wanted help with something, Yoko herself introduced her to him... If I remember correctly, back then they suspect Kogoro is connected with Sherry and that he's hiding her somehow... and maybe, just maybe, if she's a BO member she instinctively brought another org member closer to their suspect (?).
Then there was this talk about that Statue of Liberty lighter back in her apartment. She doesn't smoke but she has a lighter.
Still I dunno how to react if Yoko really is part of them. I mean, Kogoro's CRAZY over her @.@
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Post by neonquincy1217 on Nov 10, 2014 10:12:57 GMT
Ah, I almost forgot! Okay, I'm now rather iffy on James Black being Anokata because he knew that Akai was still alive. He always knew. Ever since the beginning. We know that the boss is really freaking cautious and, like Vermouth, believes that a single Silver Bullet could possibly take down the organization in one fell swoop. So why didn't he say anything to the other crows? Why is he okay with Akai being alive - and keeping it hidden? Unless he doesn't want to be the boss and secretly wants the crows to fall. Like he's just keeping all the evil in one place, so Akai or whatever Silver Bullet can pierce it and destroy all the evil stuff in one blow. But that's another conspiracy sort of theory; that the boss really isn't evil, but trying to do good in a super roundabout way. Which also makes no sense because he can't possibly condone all the killing that goes on and he was the one who ordered the whole APTX / project thing, right? So, I'm doubting James Black as Anokata, but who knows? Oh my gosh, that too... James is the only one in the FBI who knew Akai faked his death. If he's Anokata, why didn't he report it to the other org people? The Moriarty connection still bugs me, though...O.o Even Conan said it, but then again he refuted himself by saying "Only Sherlockians will come to such conclusions."
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Post by neonquincy1217 on Nov 13, 2014 7:10:28 GMT
hm? But didn't Corbeau disguised as Toichi, but then it's revealed in the last panels that it was actually Chikage in disguise? Yes. At the end Chikage makes a comment about the heatpacks Kaito was using and Corbeau was the only one who knew about that. So because of that Kaito realizes that Corbeau was actually his mom in disguise therefore Toichi's not back *relieved sigh* Because seriously, if it turns out Toichi's alive, Kaito turning into Kaitou Kid would have been a big waste!
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Post by Innuendo on Nov 15, 2014 18:20:48 GMT
No i dont believe that Corbeau was Chikage. Remeber when she mentioned that she met a guy when she was out of the country, i believe that that guy was infact Corbeau and she only said that to kaito because he wasn't ready to hear any other conclusion. It's also supported by the fact that Kaitou Corbeau was present for quite some time if the info that Hakuba presented about him were true. I just can't see him as Chikage because she would have to go through all the trouble of actually making a name and popularity for Corbeau just so that she could see if her son was serious about his mission through a heist with both of them in it. Still that's just my opinion.
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Post by StarlightDragons on Nov 15, 2014 19:05:04 GMT
Though I'm fairly sure Chikage and Corbeau are different people, it seemed that there were two Corbeau at one point, and one of those was possibly Chikage in disguise. And that's great and all, but we're straying a bit off topic. As to James and the connection to Moriarty, maybe it's a red herring? When you mentioned the "Only Sherlockians will come to such conclusions" thing, I was reminded of Conan's lame excuse to trusting Subaru. Something about how a guy who loves Holmes can't be that bad!!1one!!1! Obviously he didn't actually think that. This could go both ways; despite the faux reasoning, Subaru could in fact be trusted, so maybe there really is some connection between James and Moriarty. On the other hand, it was a really stupid way to go about it, especially considering the Holmes convention was filled with people who loved Holmes and Conan had no issue with proclaiming one of them a murderer, maybe implying that it would be stupid to blame James because of that. And that reminds me of something else. Notice the Black Org is more often linked to Holmes than Moriarty? The 'incomplete detective', 'shelling ford', and I'm not sure if this one applies but there was another thing with a coded location (sometime during the Kir arcs?) and maybe that had something to do with Holmes? ... I suddenly lost my train of thought. I swear I was getting somewhere with that. I think I messed up the explanation, too... I'll come back to look at this again when I'm not feeling so muddled with various plot bunnies. XD
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Post by neonquincy1217 on Nov 16, 2014 9:03:02 GMT
Take your time!~ LOL, maybe Conan has tendencies to be irrational when it comes to fandom? XDI remember that excuse he made when Ai asked him why he's letting a complete stranger live in his house XDD Also... I theorize the boss is a fan of/reads Night Baron
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Post by BlackCriminal (96hani) on Nov 16, 2014 13:33:16 GMT
I dunno about Toichi being the boss. Conan was intended to be a lot shorter than it's turned out, so I'm pretty sure the name of the boss was revealed sometime before the crossover happened. That's just my feelings about it though. I have a crack theory about Heiji secretly being the boss, but that just extends to him sitting in an office, cackling evilly and rubbing his hands together while exclaiming, "Yes! It was me all along!" Hahaha, I can completely imagine a scene like that XDD I really love the theory about James-san though ^^ In my case though, I have a completely different theory (which is completely incorrect and utterly crazy, but interesting all the same) which I'm planning to write a fanfic about, so I'm not going to say anything about it *evil cackle* I sure hope I get it finished though xd
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Post by nayru on Feb 10, 2015 14:04:29 GMT
I have a crack theory about Heiji secretly being the boss, but that just extends to him sitting in an office, cackling evilly and rubbing his hands together while exclaiming, "Yes! It was me all along!" Brilliant. xD As far as crack theories go, I always laugh that Shinichi's mom needs to be AnoKata (because seriously, just look what that woman tends to pull off sometimes - WE SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.) Shinichi would never suspect her. Sometimes I wonder if the whole thing in the Mystery Train wasn't arranged between Yukiko and Vermouth beforehand, too. And the thing with Vermouth being the boss' favorite would make somewhat sense, considering they've been actress friends since a while now... yeah, crack theories make the world go round. xD I've already heard all kinds of theories about James Black, and while he might be the most fitting suspect, I kinda get the feeling it wouldn't have that much of an impact for us readers if it were really him. Gosho loves to make our jaws drop and fry our brains with crucial revelations, and I'm sure he'll still have a surprise ready for us in that regard. Toichi or Yoko being AnoKata are such interesting theories, though! @ w @ ... Maybe one of them is actually Rum? 8'D;
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Post by dogfish44 on Feb 14, 2015 2:01:00 GMT
Apparently we have a bit of information from Gosho, from SDB60+
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Post by StarlightDragons on Feb 14, 2015 16:59:19 GMT
oh O.O that helps... eliminate like half the suspects we were considering XD
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Post by Mikauzoran on Feb 14, 2015 17:20:52 GMT
Oh. Was it that they had or hadn't appeared in front of Conan before? I read somewhere else that they HAD. I'd have to look at the original Japanese to see what it really said.
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Post by assasin8 on Feb 14, 2015 21:04:44 GMT
after reading through this thread, I just spent the past three hours looking through Gosho interviews... But if this person HASN'T appeared in front of Conan, but for some reason we still know their full name, who COULD they be...?
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Post by StarlightDragons on Feb 14, 2015 22:27:58 GMT
name could be read off someplace - there was a theory about something on the mermaid island, I'm going to need to dig a little to find it again...
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Post by dogfish44 on Mar 25, 2015 3:25:53 GMT
I doubt the validity of that prior quote to be frank, since it deals with so many characters Gosho is chopping off.
Gin and Kichiemon have been confirmed not the boss by Gosho.
People off the boss list according to Gosho are: Agasa, Kudo Yuusaku, Conan, Ran, Vermouth, Shiratori, Fusae Kinoshita Campbell, James Black, Sonoko, Ayumi, Genta, Mitsuhiko, Samizu Kichiemon, and Gin
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