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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Aug 17, 2014 22:40:10 GMT
Need help on trying to figure out how a Detective Conan or Magic Kaito character might respond in a certain situation? You can ask and respond to those questions here.
So, here's my question. How would Takagi act if he discovered that Conan and Shinichi have the same fingerprints? Would he confront them right away about it? Would he tell someone else (such as Satou-san) about it? What would he do?
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Post by Crimson Amarone on Aug 17, 2014 23:09:24 GMT
Tricky question, though I've seen this situation come up a few times in fics. Usually they were pretty short and didn't really explore the concept that in-depth. I think he'd spend a rather ridiculous amount of time trying to figure out what to do himself! It's likely that he might not jump to the conclusion that Conan was shrunk, after all that's crazy, right? He'd actually ask himself these same questions: "Should I ask Conan-kun, should I try to get in contact with Kudou-kun? Should I tell Satou-san??" While he's wondering about that, he's start coming up with some crazy theories about what the same fingerprints actually implicate. Now that his relationship is secured with Satou, perhaps he's more likely to share with her than he would a couple hundred chapters ago. haha But I can see him being nervous and shy about asking Satou because he doesn't want to look silly in front of her with his crazy theories. Either way, I don't think he'd go about this bluntly at all. He'd probably to to figure it out on his own for awhile, and maybe once he'd give up he start questioning in a very roundabout way. Possibly cause Conan to get suspicious before he gets a chance to figure anything out. But of course, I really like the scenario about Takagi finding him out and hope he does eventually!
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Aug 18, 2014 3:27:17 GMT
Thanks! That was a big help! By the way, considering the context of the story, "getting in contact with Kudou-kun" would be just as easy as asking Conan. After all, Shinichi returned . . . and Conan was right next to him. Now I just have to figure out the rest of the fanfiction and figure out how Takagi will fit into the more important aspects of the story. Not that, you know, Takagi finding out the Conan and Shinichi having the same fingerprints isn't important. But the Black Organization is very important.
Anyway, thanks for the advice!
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Post by Kaggami on Aug 18, 2014 14:27:22 GMT
If you don´t mind my opinion, I am not sure he´ll share it with Sato. Takagi already started to wonder whom Conan really is, but not even once I have seen him voice it to Sato, no matter how close they are. Taking in account his personality, he is more likely to ask Conan than investigate in the dark, since Conan is a friend and person he cares for. Takagi seems like a nice and yet result person, so I don´t believe he would investigate behind Conan´s back. Then again, I can be wrong... but this is how I feel by watching and reading the anime.
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Aug 18, 2014 15:32:38 GMT
Hmm, that makes sense as well. Well, I'll do my best.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 5:56:35 GMT
As for the question posed above, I agree with most others that it would be kind of iffy. Takagi-keiji is a person full of self-doubt, which can often get in his way when he stumbles upon something quite genius. If he believes what he's noticed is imperative, he'll speak up with a sort of determination. However, clearly with the Conan and Shinichi situation, it seems absurd. He's often almost blindly followed Conan, to the point Conan doesn't even have to use the voice changer to contact him as Kudo. It's been hinted that Takagi and Satou both feel that Conan is more than a smart child, especially Takagi. But I don't recall Takagi really sharing that with many people. I don't know that Takagi would honestly be entirely shocked to learn that they're the same person, after all, his personal mystery would be solved. I just really doubt Takagi would go to anyone about it.(And I just realized I was re-stating much of what Kaggami was mentioning) He can be straight forward when he has the evidence to back himself up, so I think perhaps... if he were to confront anyone, it would be Conan. He has more of a history with 'Conan', and I do agree with Takagi not wanting to go behind others' backs, which is where Satou differs. Give Takagi the time to build up his 'case' about them being the same person, despite the insanity of the idea, and then let him do the confronting. He might try talking to Satou about it, but I feel like he would try and fail, eventually just saying it was nothing. But that's just how I feel about it.
On another note, I have a personal preference when it comes to stories and I realize some may not agree that this is 'universal' advice. I feel like things are much more natural when people use the proper honorifics when referring to characters within a story. I personally cringe when I read something like Haibara calling Conan "Shinichi" "Conan", or honestly any of those variables. Unless there's a justifiable reason (she's being super serious in a frantic moment - She yelled "Conan" in one of the movies where she pushed him out of the way to save him, speaking volumes about her personal and hidden feelings..-) or if in the story they're much closer or something of the like. Japanese (the language) has such a neat way of displaying relationships and how close people are toward each other. In fact, it gives verbal cues of what the situation is when the honorific changes. Say that Shinichi called Ran "Mouri-san". That's really, really, really distant compared to his normal and somewhat abnormally affectionate habit of calling her by simply "Ran". Things like this can show that something is wrong or strange with the situation, causing the other characters to perhaps feel uncomfortable (Unless Shinichi is talking about Ran with someone he deeply respects. In Japan, you wouldn't refer to your friend simply by what you call them in front of someone like your teacher or the senator. You might say 'Mouri-chan/-san' or even 'Ran-san'. I guess it's just more respectful?) It's uncomfortable for me when writers casually have Conan calling Haibara "Ai" with no honorific and no reasoning. I just think it's worth your time to pay attention to honorifics and their reflection on character relationships. It really can help or hinder the natural feeling of your story. In my opinion, at the very least.
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Post by Crimson Amarone on Aug 19, 2014 14:06:23 GMT
It's been hinted that Takagi and Satou both feel that Conan is more than a smart child, especially Takagi. But I don't recall Takagi really sharing that with many people. There was a very minor hint of this when Takagi was talking about Conan to Megure in the recent Kite case though. It's nothing really notable but a few fans did notice it and pointed it out. I doubt anything will come of it since we see moments like this every once and awhile, but I think instances like these definitely show that the other characters aren't completely brushing over the oddities.
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Aug 19, 2014 15:54:02 GMT
Okay, I'll try. At least him getting his thoughts together and thinking about this will give me time for the main part of the story to play out, but I guess there's a bit of a time restriction, since 5 days in story-time need to pass before I can continue with the main part. Do you think Takagi would end up confronting them within those 5 days or would it take longer?
Oh, don't worry, I ALWAYS include honorifics in my stories, for the same reason that you spelled out.
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Aug 19, 2014 15:59:30 GMT
Crimson Amarone - Are you talking about File 886 on page 5?
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Post by Crimson Amarone on Aug 19, 2014 16:24:52 GMT
Specifically, 887 pg 14, but that scene you mentioned sorta ties in too, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 16:34:28 GMT
Oh, don't worry, I ALWAYS include honorifics in my stories, for the same reason that you spelled out. Sorry if that seemed directed solely at you >.< It wasn't! I may be wrong but I thought perhaps the thread was open to a variety of suggestions and questions and I just decided to randomly blurt something out because I'm kind of silly XD Glad to hear that other people feel the same way, though! I guess it was kind of off-topic upon reflection... I guess I should only get to making responses when it's not way late at night XD;; Sorry about that.
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Aug 19, 2014 17:35:15 GMT
Crimson Amarone - Oh, I forgot about that scene. Well, I remembered Megure-keibu's response but for some reason not what Takagi said O.o But yeah, I can see that. HaibaraDaiFan - Oh okay. No, it's alright
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Oct 10, 2014 17:41:46 GMT
Okay, technically this is advice on DCMK characters, so I'll put it here.
If the police are looking at Shinichi and Kid-disguised-as-Shinichi, and both are saying that they're the real Shinichi, how do the police tell which is real?
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Post by StarlightDragons on Oct 10, 2014 18:45:01 GMT
Check for hair gel. Jokes aside, they can also get Ran to quiz both Shinichi on at least ten different things for their childhood. Separately. Let's face it, Nakamori would probably yell at both and cuff them together, then say that the real Shinichi should be able to stop Kid if they're cuffed together like that. (as for an excuse as to why the "mask" won't come off, if you ever need some excuse for that for whatever reason, Kaito can just claim glue) (or Shinichi could deduce glue) (or just say that they look alike. Which they do, but anyway)
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Oct 10, 2014 21:03:52 GMT
Yeah, I was thinking about something like that but then I'm also trying to keep Ran out of it cuz, well, Shinichi suddenly shows up without informing Ran beforehand and I don't feel like figuring out how her emotions would work. Well, I guess I can always say what happened in a side story . . . Actually, I might do that.
Lol.
(I'm just going with they look like each other because, well, they do)
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