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Post by airbournebearcarcass on Apr 19, 2015 6:10:07 GMT
What...what does it mean!? Why do I sense this inauspiciousness?
I only understand what the kanji might mean...'同時' means 'at the same time' or 'simultaneously', '解決' means 'solve' or 'handle', '殺' means 'kill'...can some kind soul who understands Japanese tell me what is going on, someone in MK died?
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Apr 19, 2015 12:34:41 GMT
Someone tell me what's going on!!!!!!!!
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Post by Mikauzoran on Apr 19, 2015 13:36:30 GMT
-.-; It was talking about whether Conan could solve Touichi's murder, and Sensei said no because he wasn't murdered in the first place. I am pissed and considering finding that lousy, lousy father and murdering himself to maintain the status quo. No one tell Kaito.
*Kaito walks in* "Tell me what?"
Oh, nothing, dear. Don't worry. Your father really has been dead all this time. He hasn't abandoned you and caused you a lifetime worth of trauma for nothing. He hasn't secretly been trolling you in the background. Your father was a good man, and he loved you very, very much, so there's no way that he just faked his death and skipped town on you, darling. And your mother probably isn't in on it either. That's not why she abandoned you to spend most of her time in Los Vegas. Carry on, Darling. Nothing to see here.
*Kaito blinks* "Auntie Kei, you're weird."
I know. Now come on, we're going to write you some nice fluff later to make up for the outrageous betrayal you'll be suffering shortly. And I've been thinking, Dear, you need new parents. May I adopt you?
And scene. Now could someone please tell me that I utterly suck at Japanese and have completely screwed up the translation? Like, I'm totally serious. Somebody use Google Translate or something and tell me I'm wrong. Like, for realz. Someone else tell me what that says and tell me I'm completely wrong. Anyone?
I'm very upset for Kaito's sake right now. And I'm upset because this huge betrayal is not going to be handled appropriately angst-wise by Sensei. I am not a happy zora right now.
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Post by fory on Apr 19, 2015 13:57:04 GMT
Hmm.. I'm not really against Toichi coming back, but I hope there is some good explanation there. ^^;;; I mean looking back at all the chapters, the whole point of becoming Kid is totally lost now. I wonder if Aoyama had intended to do it since the beginning or if it was just a recent thing?
Also I'm really surprised that Aoyama-sensei just admitted it so easily.. xD isn't it like a really major plot point?
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Post by Mikauzoran on Apr 19, 2015 14:24:34 GMT
I'm only opposed because of what it's going to do to Kaito. Or what it should do to Kaito if Sensei ever portrayed reactions to angst-worthy events correctly. Which he doesn't. -.-; Canon Kaito is probably going to be really excited to see his dad again and all will be well.
In all actuality, Kaito should be pissed, go all emo "You ruined my life!", and rage quit his parents. Because those are some lousy parents. I like them as people, but they really have royally screwed up their son. *Shakes head* It's okay. I'll just fic about it. That is why fanfiction exists, to correct the failings of the original and to flesh out the characters.
I am excited to see how Sensei goes about this, though.
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Post by kkrazy256 on Apr 19, 2015 15:01:20 GMT
Uwah, it seems that I have incited your anger Mikau. I apologize. I felt the same way as well when I found out. I left my computer in a fit of anger and just walked around the halls, cursing DCMK parents and their crappy parenting skills before coming back to inform the rest of you.
I hope sensei has realized that MK is no longer a gag manga. The franchise has grown so much that people are watching, they're nitpicking. He can't play down Kaito's emotions when a scene like this occurs. He will have to go full out if that were the case. I can see that he's attempting (through the Corbeau arc where Kid really did look angry beyond belief....he still ended it with Kaito being less affected than he should've been though...)
As for me I think yeah, if Toichi just shows back up, Kaito would be furious and seriously betrayed. His Kid mission is undermined. He's been running around, risking arrest and death when he's only seventeen because he believed his dad had been killed. He wanted to avenge him by finding pandora before the organization. (I do question Kaito's morals. At times I think he's more focused on the avenging part than 'letting pandora into that organization's hands is a risk to humanity')
I don't even want to think about the amount of therapy the poor thing might've gone through just to get over his father's death. However, I guess I can understand. If they had brought back Toichi when Kaito was even younger (12-13), that might've screwed him up even more.
Anyways, long story short, Kaito should just drop the poker face completely during the reveal. Just break down, yell and angry tears. There's no way any child would be fine after such a reveal. Not even a Gosho protagonist. He should angrily skip town for a couple of months (that would make a nice manga arc) and refuse to get into contact with any of them. Because, damn it treat your children right.
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Post by airbournebearcarcass on Apr 19, 2015 15:33:44 GMT
I think by now many people have recognised a trend in many parent child relationships in the DCMK world, they are utterly dysfunctional.
Shinichi's parents basically abandoned him in Japan
Ran's had to take care of her incompetent father
Kaito's mom is mysteriously absent almost all the time
Aoko's dad is a workaholic and her mom's missing for whatever reason
Hattori's dad seem to have minimal interaction with his son, they do not look close at all
Ai and Akemi's parents are more busy with their science projects then they were with their children
Eisuke's dad was a CIA agent, a job with relatively high mortality rate within the realm of fiction. His mom died early
I will wager my monthly payment of Bourbon and coffee that somewhere down the line we will learn that the Akai family had crappy parents too
I seriously wonder what kind of relationship Gosho Aoyama has with his parents. And I am really glad I am not born in the DCMK world.
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Post by Mikauzoran on Apr 19, 2015 15:39:00 GMT
Well, seeing as the Akai/Sera father has been dead since Masumi was little...(that or he's secretly the Big Bad) and the mom may or may not be terminally ill/a grade schooler at the moment.
You have a point, I really do wonder what Sensei's relationship with his parents is/was like. O.o
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Post by ichthyophobia on Apr 19, 2015 16:00:54 GMT
I kind of always figured that the terrible/absent parenting wasn't so much an emotion/character choice as it was a plot one. Without parents, the kids can do absolutely ridiculous things that no sane parent would ever let them do - like chase down criminals. Their absence simplifies the action/detective parts of the plot.
And does it actually say that he's alive, or just that he wasn't murdered? Because there's always a chance that it actually was an accident that Snake just took credit for - not that that would be a particularly satisfying story to read, but possible. And if he is alive... Well, he better have a darn good explanation for this.
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Post by Mikauzoran on Apr 19, 2015 16:13:02 GMT
"Wasn't murdered"
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Post by House of Mystery on Apr 19, 2015 17:18:17 GMT
I wouldn't put *too* much stock into it. Gosho's changed his mind (if not flat-out lied about things) before. Remember when he made an "exception" to Kid not appearing in Important Conan Storylines?
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Post by Mikauzoran on Apr 19, 2015 17:38:16 GMT
Still, I feel like this is something he can't really backpedal on. :/
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Post by Nikudou Natsumi on Apr 19, 2015 18:48:58 GMT
I really do hope it's just an accident that Snake took credit for. Toichi can't be alive.
Or maybe, it's the whole "parallel universes" thing that Aoyama-sensei mentioned before. Because Kid appears in Detective Conan, but magic doesn't exist in Detective Conan even though it does in Magic Kaito. So maybe DC's Toichi wasn't murdered, even though MK's was. Of course, that'd make you wonder about why Kaito took up the Kid mantle in the first place, but . . .
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Post by LaurelWreath on Apr 19, 2015 20:26:50 GMT
Let me see if I got this. Toichi Kuroba is alive? I'm getting a very strange sense of deja vu.
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Post by Mikauzoran on Apr 19, 2015 20:37:28 GMT
Maybe, just maybe, ABC was on to something and Toi-chan and Akai really are the same person!!! Gasp of sarcasm! Next we're going to find out that none of the murder victims are actually dead either. It's all just some conspiracy. *Nods sagely* And then Co-cha's going to start seeing them on the street and be like, "Wait! You! From episode 295! You're supposed to be dead!!!"
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