Addy01
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Post by Addy01 on May 19, 2016 9:46:02 GMT
just wondering if anyone is aware of things that's included in the anime that isn't introduced (yet) in the manga (i.e. what is non-canon) . Like:
1) Some of Conan's glasses functions and gadget e.g. night visions 2) Shinichi's violin skills (?) i can't remember him playing or hinting in him possessing this skill even when there's a case involving the violin 3) Shinichi's supposed perfect pitch, or he would have figured out the Boss's phone number immediately after hearing it.
4) Ran's piano playing skills 5) KID knowing Conan's true identity
Fill free to add anything in i have missed. or if there's already a website that already has this list! And just correct me if i am wrong!
It's been a while since i have read the manga back to back, so i'll definitely missed something.
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neonquincy1217
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Post by neonquincy1217 on May 19, 2016 12:47:30 GMT
I guess the most notable one is how they changed the Akemi Miyano chapter in the anime... and then introducing Akemi Miyano later in the anime series. They messed up real bad in that one. Also the one where Conan thought he met Gin and Vodka on the train, the one where there's a bomb on board. They say that in the manga it was really Gin and Vodka (and that at this point he still doesn't know their codenames). Other differences include: 6) The episode where the DB plays hide and seek and they heard banging sounds in pattern 2-5-2. In the manga, there was an earthquake.That was what woke Agasa up. In the anime, they omitted it because of the 2011 Tohoku earthquake. 7) Heiji and Kazuha's scene in Yamamura's police car was omitted at the end of the Kamaitachi case.Even Haibara and Agasa's scene was omitted. 8) Oh, right. Genta, Ayumi and Mitsuhiko weren't introduced until the scene where Conan starts coming to Teitan Elementary, while they're introduced in the anime as kids who try to sneak in for free at Tropical Land. Let's add more to this list. YAY!~ (Also, they're correct, dude. Every single one )
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Addy01
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Post by Addy01 on May 19, 2016 13:49:16 GMT
9) Conan (and Ran) Surfing (there's an anime episode on it) 10) Conan's ability to operate a helicopter and a speed boat 11) Skateboard skills isn't as wild as depicted in the movies 12) Conan's BD revealed?
Ohh! what happened with the Akemi thing? i don't think i have seen the anime episode on it.
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Post by Cesela on May 19, 2016 15:53:15 GMT
Akemi actually dies twice in the anime. The first time around.. urgh. The first ten I think.. this happened in the manga too, only this Akemi wasnt involved with the BO and was killed by someone else. Also never told Conan about the BO. The next time was in ep 128 (they had to as Haibara shows up in ep. 129). Same character, same name and was killed by Gin. Which is one of the most idiotic episodes out there for several reasons. Firstly, Akemi's death was ruled as suicide despite being shot in the stomach from a distance (why not a headshot?) And even if some higher ups in the police department wanted the investigation dropped, what stops the first responders for looking into the matter? There wasnt even a gun in the crime scene *fumes angrily* secoundly, Gin shot her with his right hand, despite being left handed. They later on apologiesed for the mistake and insinuated that Gin is ambidextrious, which he is not. At least Gosho has not said anything about it.
Also, does Kid know who Conan really is? I was under the impression that the movies arent canon.
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Post by neonquincy1217 on May 19, 2016 17:09:04 GMT
(Darn, that is one big mistake over there! I never paid attention to that before O.o)
No he doesn't. Although the very first Conan vs. Kid thing in DC kind of confused me, particularly that part where aboard St. Elizabeth, after Conan kicks the phone and starts shouting at Kid... and we get this frame where Shinichi's face is in the background ROFL, I don't know if you guys get that. I'm not sure how to describe it xD
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13)Hawaii reference in general (aka "I learned that in Hawaii" running gag) 14)Ran changing cellphones right after it broke in one of the noncanon episodes (can't remember which. All I know is that she changed to a touchscreen phone when she's still supposed to be using the clam one) <--someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I noticed this once but I can't remember when 15)Kogorou's golden business card 16)Can't remember this one much,too, but I once read somewhere that Conan's phone earrings were introduced earlier in the anime (I think?) than in the manga
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Post by Cesela on May 19, 2016 20:20:26 GMT
I hissed myself really up about that episode, haha. Because I was following the dubbed version first and so never saw ep 128 before after catching up with the previous 800. There is also one really strange episode. Episode 33, where they insinuated that the original Kaitou KID stole a unpublished published manuscript from Yuusaku, stole a lot of jewlery and hid it in a cave Yuusaku created back in 1973 as a treasure map. And for some reason the manuscript also has the scription 'to my son, Shinichi'. And the bad guys are thieves who talks about being happy that their boss is dead, and for some reason created this map to confuse them(they were previously partners). And on top of that, this map turns up at Agasa's attic. Now, this episodes make absoulutely no sense what so ever. Either, one, Kaitou KID was not the gentleman thief we all thought he was, two, Yuusaku pretended KID stole his unpublished manuscript and hid it somewhere just to mess with his publisher or that he was KID? I don't know. How did this 'magician thief' even know about Yuusaku's map and was able to figure out everything?, three, there are some truth between the thories that Kaito and Shinichi is related somehow. or four, the anime creators are idiots. Either way, I pretend like this episode does not exist. Should not exist. Maybe Shinichi's face is in the background in order to potray are more balance between their ages? A kid beating a 17 year old boy. Only if to preserve some of poor Kaito's dignity.
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Addy01
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Post by Addy01 on May 19, 2016 22:39:11 GMT
Do we take the clock tower heist as canon even though it technically MK? Cause that would mean Shinichi knows how to handle a gun.
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Post by Cesela on May 19, 2016 22:46:41 GMT
The clock tower heist should be canon yeah. And consdidering how accurate he is with his watch? He definitely knows how to handle a gun. Come on. His dad is Yuusaku. Would be surprised if anything else. haha.
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Post by neonquincy1217 on May 20, 2016 15:36:43 GMT
Yes. Clock tower heist is canon... MK timeline canon.
SHEESH that manuscript. Don't get me wrong I liked that episode. But now that you pointed that out... *cringes*
Oh, I remember another one... 16) Kaitou KID's criminal record, as seen in Movie 3(?) is noncanon
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Post by presumenothing on May 21, 2016 10:51:39 GMT
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Post by neonquincy1217 on May 21, 2016 13:52:01 GMT
Oh look, list! ^^,) *goes through list*
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Addy01
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Post by Addy01 on May 21, 2016 14:02:53 GMT
Thanks presumenothing! That's a rather extensive list. I am looking more for skills/plot holes/discrepancies/contradictions instead of just a list what's diff for each episode. Sorry i should hv specified. But this list is still useful anyway. thanks! I don't really watch that much anime, only random episodes on youtube when i am bored... so was thinking about movie non-canon stuff when i started the thread. 17) Shinichi (and KID) flying an aeroplane. - can't forget that. Also, i know Sonoko plays tennis, but does she play for her school team?
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Post by neonquincy1217 on May 21, 2016 14:18:09 GMT
As far as I know, yes...?
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Post by neonquincy1217 on May 22, 2016 15:57:42 GMT
Oh my gosh, I remembered something, Addy01! I came across it whilst seeping through Masumi-related material. We can consider Shinichi's violin skills and Ran's piano skills canon, as both are briefly stated on the Formation of the Girls' Band chapter (ch936). Although Conan says "Ran-neechan knows how to play the keyboard, right?" it's the same principle right?
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Post by setogirl2 on May 30, 2016 11:51:24 GMT
Most of the stuffs in the movies 1) Conan learning how to aim perfectly in Hawaii with his dad 2) Learning how to fly a helicopter in Hawaii with his dad 3) learning how to fly an aeroplane
I kinda really wanna see a movie about that trip with his dad now lolll
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