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Post by sgamer82 on Jan 7, 2016 2:52:05 GMT
It's been a long time since I followed Conan, but recently started becoming interested in it after stumbling across the arc with Haibara learning that her favorite soccer player was rumored to have a girlfriend.
The last major story point I read was the introduction of Subaru Okiya. I'm aware of spoilers involving him but have not read that far firsthand.
To help with the inevitable Archive Binge, I was wondering where roughly I can find chapters from there featuring either the Black Organization, hijinks with the Detective Boys, or arcs focused on Haibara (which the previous two probably cover by themselves).
Thanks in advance.
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Post by Mikauzoran on Jan 7, 2016 3:31:17 GMT
Well, I can't really help you personally, but if you're interested in specific characters, like Haibara, I would google "Haibara Ai appearances". Detective Conan World Wiki has a list for almost all of the characters, what chapters and episodes and movies and OVAs they appear in, so you should be able to find what you're looking for that way. Good luck!
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Post by ichthyophobia on Jan 7, 2016 3:33:32 GMT
Detective boys stories... there's a lot of those. Most of us don't really register those as a separate category because there's so many. And they almost never advance the greater plot... Still, if you really like them, HERE is a list of every manga chapter, anime episode, opening, OVA, or movie they've been in. That list deals with Mitsuhiko specifically, but since he pretty much only shows up with the detective boys it's accurate enough for this purpose. That said, I cannot recommend the detectiveconanworld wiki high enough for this purpose. Any character that's appeared more than a couple times has their own page listing like that with all the appearances. HERE's the one for Haibara. The chapters you mentioned with the soccer player rumored girlfriend are chapters 925-927, though I would warn you against reading those before catching up on all the Black Org shenanigans. They do make some brief mentions towards the start of 925 that could be considered spoilerish if you're not up on things. As far as the Black Org goes, it's hard to pin down exactly which ones to read/watch. Subaru's introduction kicked off the Bourbon arc, and pretty much the whole point of that was "who, out of these three characters we just introduced, is the secret sneaky black org agent?!"" So if you just read the chapters where known agents appear, you won't catch all that. If you want to experience the full "who is Bourbon" effect, you'll need to read everything involving Masumi Sera, Tooru Amuro, and Subaru Okiya. I'm not linking to their wiki pages, because this is technically a spoiler free zone, but if you look them up on the wiki the pages should redirect. Just don't look too closely at the page names if you don't want to be spoiled. Okiya's is extra problematic in that sense. Though Okiya's page is fairly ridiculous anyway, as he has justly gained the fandom nickname "Master of Pointless Cameos". You've read Okiya's introduction, I'm assuming. Sera's introduction is Chapters 768-770, and Amuro's is 793-795. They're in quite a lot of chapters after that, so I won't list everything. But if you just want the (literally) explosive conclusion and reveal, you'll want the Mystery Train arc (818-824) and the Scarlet Showdown arc (894-898, 893 is involved but is technically the tail end of another case.) You can also check the wiki's page for the black org appearances, but again, not linking thanks to spoiler-free zone, and it can quite easily spoil Bourbon's identity. Anyway. I hope that's something of what you were looking for.
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TinyTantei
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Post by TinyTantei on Jan 7, 2016 4:43:59 GMT
For a spoiler-free (perhaps complete, can somebody verify? I haven't been using it much) list, I know Xerblade has a list of the most important Detective Conan episodes, with reasons why they're so important. Some of them are for Black Organization purposes, some are for character development (including Haibara), and it lists next to each episode/arc why it's important, so you can just CTRL+F for whatever you're looking for. Of course, that's only for the anime, though.
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Post by sgamer82 on Jan 7, 2016 5:16:45 GMT
Thanks a bunch I'll take a look at those.
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Post by doublexxcross on Jan 7, 2016 12:09:46 GMT
I need to finish the party key still, but here's my partially-annotated Case Counter of manga chapters, episodes and movies (some of the comments are spoilerly so make your window thinner if that helps): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k-RXNkvNFta-DzpbsvI3lUAR4QnUqfrb-ubCMglbmgo/edit#gid=0Plot is marked with PLOT or PLOT? (for if it's not in focus or is light touching on the story), the organisation with CROWS, and most of the cases starring the DB should have a party key somewhat like cAamgh or camgh, if not a leftover note from poor notation days that just says "Detective Boys".
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Post by sgamer82 on Jan 11, 2016 18:35:00 GMT
Actually, thinking about it, are there any cases where the Detective Boys solve a case WITHOUT Conan? I have an old idea with the kids solving something without Conan's aid and could use those for reference.
The closest things I can think of is a story where Kobayashi sets up a game to integrate two kids into the class by using their names in a puzzle. She called Conan away specifically to avoid him solving it too fast.
The other, more recent had the kids discovering a kidnapping and random plot the kids stumbled onto when playing in an abandoned building (Conan got himself captured early).
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Post by ichthyophobia on Jan 11, 2016 21:36:17 GMT
Well, there's always the one in the cave at the beginning of the desperate revival arc. He's there, just unconscious for most of it. That one with Kobayashi-sensei is chapters 548-549, though I can't say I recall the abandoned building one. There's always the Kirin's Horn heist, where Conan's knocked out with a taser, but technically Haibara does all the mental heavy lifting and Conan does do the final reveal once he wakes up.
Also, this isn't quite what you're looking for, but there is one anime original episode where the detective boys get it right and Conan gets it wrong, which is sort of a version of them solving it without him. Episode 225, "The Secret of the High Sales."
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Post by sgamer82 on Jan 11, 2016 21:44:49 GMT
Well, there's always the one in the cave at the beginning of the desperate revival arc. He's there, just unconscious for most of it. That one with Kobayashi-sensei is chapters 548-549, though I can't say I recall the abandoned building one. There's always the Kirin's Horn heist, where Conan's knocked out with a taser, but technically Haibara does all the mental heavy lifting and Conan does do the final reveal once he wakes up. I forget the chapter numbers but it's one I read recently. The 2-5-2 case, they stumble across a pair of kidnappers who had kidnapped an old man for random. Conan's there and, while he and Haibara get captured, they're detained close to where the DB are hiding. Conan gets them to call each others' phones, scattered around the building, to distract the crooks and buy time to get clear. Is the Kirin'a Horn Heist the one where Kid impersonates Genta? I remember a heist where the kids are used as guards precisely because Kid can't impersonate a child... To which he basically says "challenge accepted"
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Post by ichthyophobia on Jan 11, 2016 21:49:42 GMT
Yeah, he impersonates Genta near the end, though he spends most of the episode in a different disguise. Sounds like you've seen that one though.
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Post by sgamer82 on Jan 11, 2016 21:51:39 GMT
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Post by ichthyophobia on Jan 16, 2016 5:23:37 GMT
Oh, remembered one! If you don't mind non-manga cases, one of the OVAs (Kid in Trap Island, OVA 10 I think?) has the detective boys working on their own to capture Kid. Conan's doing his own much-more-logical thing, but they actually succeed in bringing his glider down on their own. And then they get to torment him for the rest of the episode.
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